What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

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What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

Nový příspěvek od GW junior » čtvrtek 16. 11. 2017, 14:00:00

Can anybody tell me what is so-called child pornography?
As is well known, the definition of pornography as such does not exist.
Will McBride an American photographer published a photo book for children. Show Me! is a controversial sex education book by photographer Will McBride. It appeared in 1974 in German under the title Zeig Mal.
It was translated into English a year later and was widely available in bookstores on both sides of the Atlantic for many years, but later became subject to expanded child pornography laws in jurisdictions including the United States.
The same was the case of Azov Films.
On what grounds do people go to jail for having child pornography if it is not clear what it is?
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Re: What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

Nový příspěvek od Myš » pátek 17. 11. 2017, 23:36:25

It's up to local laws. Here in Czech Rep. child pornography is something else than in Slovakia. Sometimes the definition may seem vague or incoherent. Everytime it's the court that decide. In Czech a there should be a clear sexual undertone when recognising child pornography. The book Show me used to be sold here, now it only appears in auctions on the internet and it's quite pricey.
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Re: What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

Nový příspěvek od GW junior » sobota 18. 11. 2017, 18:10:25

" Everytime it's the court that decide. "
But on what basis?
How does the court know that this photo is porn and another is not?
The court may rely on expert opinions?
But how the expert recognizes pornography?
What criteria does he use?
For anyone anything can be pornography.
Even the sculpture of David or the Laocoön Group.
Is not another injustice happening to pedophiles?
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Re: What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

Nový příspěvek od Myš » pondělí 20. 11. 2017, 18:12:54

Do you see a sexual undertone in the sculpture of David? I think a vast majority of people don't and I haven't heard about a single court expert who would think it is. The line can be very thin in certain cases. If you don't like what the court decides, you have a right to appeal and defend yourself. That's how the justice system work... It isn't foolproof and mistakes can happen. Yet it's the best system we managed to set so far on the national level.

I am not trying to say that illegality of possesing or watching child pornography is good. I don't like the idea of prohibiting things that result in no people's and animal rights being broken. I am merely replying to your question.
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Re: What exactly is the so-called child pornography?

Nový příspěvek od Návštěvník » čtvrtek 23. 11. 2017, 14:14:01

Do you see a sexual undertone in the sculpture of David?
It depends on whether I am gay or not.
Women can be excited (sexually) at the sight of David`s sculpture if they are not lesbians.
On some pictures David is with a fig leaf. Probably to not to excite sexualy the viewers.
So I say that everything can be exciting sexually for anyone, even ink stains in the Rorschach test or two copulating dogs. The criterion that something is sexual or has a sexual subtext is not a good criterion to distinguish pornogrphy from non-pornography.
mistakes can happen
This is not a question of confusion.
If I do not have the criteria to recognize what something is I can not say anything abut that.
The mistake is when, for example, because of poor seeing I mistook a cat with a dog, but I know and in another circumstances I can distinguish those two animals. Because I exactly know what a cat or a dog is.
Yet it's the best system
Thank you very much for such a system in which people go to jail not knownig what for.
Is not it time to protest loudly???
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